better beacons on Varadero 125 2008

gio166 · Message par **gio166** » 20 déc. 2008, 13:06

Hello, my name is Giovanni, i'm italian and i'm 16.
i don't speak french, but i'm asking myself if you are so nice to help me.
I have a Honda Varadero 125 2008, iniectjon, and the optical group of my moto, the beacons, aren't much luminous.
i use my motorbike often in the night, ad it's dangerous with the original beacons,so i ask you where i can find some better beacons for my moto without to burn fuses or the beacons itselfs... i want to buy the beacons on a internet site, because i'm in italy...
I'm waiting for answers,
thank you very much

Pat' la Bidouille 67

gio166 a écrit :Hello, my name is Giovanni, i'm italian and i'm 16.
i don't speak french, but i'm asking myself if you are so nice to help me.
I have a Honda Varadero 125 2008, iniectjon, and the optical group of my moto, the beacons, aren't much luminous.
i use my motorbike often in the night, ad it's dangerous with the original beacons,so i ask you where i can find some better beacons for my moto without to burn fuses or the beacons itselfs... i want to buy the beacons on a internet site, because i'm in italy...
I'm waiting for answers,
thank you very much

Ben faudrait peut-être pas rêver , on va pas s'amuser à traduire tout tes posts de l'italien en français ...

zoemilou · Message par **zoemilou** » 20 déc. 2008, 16:06

Euh, je savais pas que c'était de l'italien

Shoryu · Message par **Shoryu** » 20 déc. 2008, 16:41

En plus pour vous deux, apres faut encore le traduire en alsacien

Pat' la Bidouille 67

Shoryu a écrit :En plus pour vous deux, apres faut encore le traduire en alsacien

Ce serait un + en effet!

pierreblc · Message par **pierreblc** » 20 déc. 2008, 18:37

Hi Gio,

You can find other headlights on various web sites. Just look for BA20D bulbs (connexion ref.).

Try to buy bulbs more than 30/35W. You should find 40/45 W quite easily.

Buon Viaggio

heliogabale · Message par **heliogabale** » 20 déc. 2008, 19:04

Il existe des traducteurs gratuits sur le net pouvant lui permettre de traduire ses textes en Italien vers le Français, même si on a compris le sens de sa question, à savoir un problème de faible éclairage, sauf erreur.

Faudrait tenter de passer en Xénon Gio166, ce serait peut-être la meilleure solution si tu veux y voir plus clair.

VTD · Message par **VTD** » 20 déc. 2008, 19:11

C'est le même post que là, si un modo pouvait regrouper les réponses, d'avance merci

VTD · Message par **VTD** » 20 déc. 2008, 19:13

Pat' la Bidouille 67 a écrit :
gio166 a écrit :Hello, my name is Giovanni, i'm italian and i'm 16.
i don't speak french, but i'm asking myself if you are so nice to help me.
I have a Honda Varadero 125 2008, iniectjon, and the optical group of my moto, the beacons, aren't much luminous.
i use my motorbike often in the night, ad it's dangerous with the original beacons,so i ask you where i can find some better beacons for my moto without to burn fuses or the beacons itselfs... i want to buy the beacons on a internet site, because i'm in italy...
I'm waiting for answers,
thank you very much
Ben faudrait peut-être pas rêver , on va pas s'amuser à traduire tout tes posts de l'italien en français ...

Beuh, moi j'l'ai fait...

J'aime bien ça moi faire des traductions... Mais j'avoue que je suis un peu pété du casque...

gio166 · Message par **gio166** » 20 déc. 2008, 22:33

pierreblc a écrit :Hi Gio,

You can find other headlights on various web sites. Just look for BA20D bulbs (connexion ref.).

Try to buy bulbs more than 30/35W. You should find 40/45 W quite easily.

Buon Viaggio

thank you!
on ebay i found a beacon BA20D 45/40W, is it good? after this, i found on the best italian beacons's site, OSRAM, a beacon BA20D, 40W, that function for over 500 hours...
and why is wrote or "45/40W", what is "45" and what is "40"?

VTD · Message par **VTD** » 20 déc. 2008, 22:45

If I were you, I'd go for a full Xenon kit. Would be really worth the hassle of fixing it since you have to chang the bulb anyway.

Otherwise, go for H4 bulbs (same as the ones you can find on a car). Needs a bit fixing, but cheaper and more reliable

gio166 · Message par **gio166** » 20 déc. 2008, 22:51

VTD a écrit :If I were you, I'd go for a full Xenon kit. Would be really worth the hassle of fixing it since you have to chang the bulb anyway.

Otherwise, go for H4 bulbs (same as the ones you can find on a car). Needs a bit fixing, but cheaper and more reliable

no, i'm not expert, and i don't want to modify my moto, i want only better lamps, i edited my previous post, read it!

hear me VTD, i ask you a favour, you go on EBAY, and find for me a good bulb to replace to the low-beam headlights please, it's good also an international seller, but i need a good and better bulb to replace to the low-beam headlights of my moto.... thank you very much!

heliogabale · Message par **heliogabale** » 21 déc. 2008, 10:23

Faudrait qu'il essaie la lampe frontale!

Pat31 · Message par **Pat31** » 21 déc. 2008, 10:26

gio166 a écrit :
VTD a écrit :If I were you, I'd go for a full Xenon kit. Would be really worth the hassle of fixing it since you have to chang the bulb anyway.

Otherwise, go for H4 bulbs (same as the ones you can find on a car). Needs a bit fixing, but cheaper and more reliable
no, i'm not expert, and i don't want to modify my moto, i want only better lamps, i edited my previous post, read it!
hear me VTD, i ask you a favour, you go on EBAY, and find for me a good bulb to replace to the low-beam headlights please, it's good also an international seller, but i need a good and better bulb to replace to the low-beam headlights of my moto.... thank you very much!

Are you sure that the beam of your lights is correctly adjusted ???

gio166 · Message par **gio166** » 21 déc. 2008, 13:42

yes i'm sure...
i'm searching for 4 months a solution to this problem, i've found this forum, very good, i'm waiting for VTD..

Pat31 · Message par **Pat31** » 21 déc. 2008, 18:21

gio166 a écrit :yes i'm sure...
i'm searching for 4 months a solution to this problem, i've found this forum, very good, i'm waiting for VTD..

You can wait for a long time ...his bike is a blue one ...

pierreblc · Message par **pierreblc** » 21 déc. 2008, 19:00

Hi Gio, you have 2 ways to solve your problem. The simple way is to buy the 40/45W you found on e-bay: you just have to replace bulbs.
The meaning of 40 is for normal lignts, and 45is for wide road lights.

But the solution proposed by VTD is much efficient: then, you actaullay get a very clear light, and a fine view on the road. of coursen some work has to be done then.

on the road later ?

gio166 · Message par **gio166** » 22 déc. 2008, 00:08

ok, but i'll replace it to the low-beam headlights or to the high beam headlights?

VTD · Message par **VTD** » 22 déc. 2008, 03:47

Hi gio, I'm not coming ere on a daily basis (nothing to do with the colour of my bike Pat31, thanks all the same

) but I read your post.

As mentioned before, you have the choice of replacing the bulb (the big one does both high (45W) and low (40W) beams, the wee ones are just positioning lights) or having a full xenon kit (much more efficient but more expensive) fitted on your bike...

I have no idea as to who might sell them on the internet, but you can try and send us links to bulbs you might find and we'll try and give you more details if you need

And by the way Pat31, blue bikes rock! I'd even go further and say they rule it all! Just wait for my leg to be fixed, and you'll see what "bending a curb" actually means

OK, I know the way... :dehors:

JF31 · Message par **JF31** » 22 déc. 2008, 10:39

Hello Giovanni,

I just find out your concern regarding headlights.
Please be aware that all of us have the same problem. Original bulbs are not efficient, and many of us have already replaced them.

Original bulbs are 35/35w (not halogen), with bayonet base BA20D (20mm diameter). Further to your request, the first 35 corresponds to the wattage for the low beam, and the second one to the full beam.
- So, you can replace them by halogen bulbs with the same wattage 35/35w (or a bit higher power 45/45w), and with the same bayonet base.
In this case, not any modification of your wiring or fuse is necessary. This is the simplest solution. A lot of suppliers exist on Internet, but be careful because many are not reliable...

Some of us bought BA20D halogen bulbs to the following french supplier with good results and reliabiliy:
http://www.francelampes.com/pro/catalog ... _id=151665
They should be able to send through the post to Italy.

- Then, the other possibility is to replace the original bulbs by H4 bulbs 55/60w, which are cheaper and more reliable, as explained by VTD. But it is necessary to replace the wiring due to the different base, and to install relays and new fuses.
- Last but not least, the full xenon kits, with all constraints mentioned by VTD...

Hoping that this useful for you. !

gio166 · Message par **gio166** » 22 déc. 2008, 15:35

ok friends, you're very nice to help me! thank you very much!
i want to buy this beacons: http://cgi.ebay.it/Birne-Gluehbirne-BA2 ... .m63.l1177, tell me if they are that i'm searching.
The last question, this lamp that i'm buying, i will replace it to the low-beam headlights or to the high beam headlights (dazzling lights)?

VTD · Message par **VTD** » 22 déc. 2008, 17:31

They look like it. You also have these from the UK (though 50W means you may have to shift the fuse under your saddle, which is quite easy to do) Anyway, you can always ask the seller directly

Pour les francophones, ces ampoules me semblent correspondre, si quelqu'un peut confirmer? (Elle ont une drôle de trogne quand même...)

gio166 · Message par **gio166** » 22 déc. 2008, 18:06

ok, what fuse i will replace to the original?
and, i repeat the question, this lamp that i'm buying, i will replace it to the low-beam headlights or to the high beam headlights (dazzling lights)?

JF31 · Message par **JF31** » 22 déc. 2008, 18:29

I guess your bulb is a standard one, not a halogen. You will have the same result as with your current ones...
Look at the picture provided by VTD, a halogen one has a different shape, not so round.

Why you don’t use the link that I provided to you with the French supplier ? You are sure to have halogen one which has better performances.

Regarding your question on the low-beam headlights or to the high beam headlights, I am not sure to understand very well. That is for sure is that one bulb has both functions: low-beam headlight and high beam headlight (two filaments).

Pour les non anglophones, je pense que son ampoule n’est pas une halogène, en fait c’est la même que celle d’origine.
Concernant sa question de savoir si son ampoule va remplacer le code ou le phare, je n’ai pas vraiment compris ce qu’il voulait. Je lui es dit que l'ampoule avait les deux fonctions...

gio166 · Message par **gio166** » 22 déc. 2008, 18:45

excuse me, why on the HONDA site was wrote that the honda varadero 125 has 35W for low beam headlights and 50W for high beam headlights if the original beacon is 35\35W?

JF31 · Message par **JF31** » 22 déc. 2008, 19:04

I don't know. All our french technical documentations refer to two 35/35w headlight bulbs...

gio166 · Message par **gio166** » 22 déc. 2008, 19:18

ok, i will buy the beacon advised by VTD, now what fuse i will replace to the original sited under saddle? 20A?
and how many bulbs need to buy? one or two?

JF31 · Message par **JF31** » 22 déc. 2008, 20:15

Ok, as you want. I have no information on the reliability of those...
Regarding the fuse, you can try to keep first the original one (10A). If it is not sufficient, you can change it for a 15A maxi.

Then, of course you need to buy two bulbs, if you want to replace the two original bulbs...

gio166 · Message par **gio166** » 23 déc. 2008, 12:58

ok, VTD would you confirm me that i will buy two of this lamps: http://cgi.ebay.fr/HONDA-XLR125-VARADER ... 0106155193, i will replace the fuse sited under saddle 10A with a 15A fuse, and i enjoy it whithout any problem?

JF31 · Message par **JF31** » 23 déc. 2008, 13:07

Bon VTD, c'est pour toi maintenant...

VTD · Message par **VTD** » 23 déc. 2008, 14:19

Well, I think you should ask the seller for a start, but if you want to replace your lights, there are two of them on the 'Dero anyway... So you might want to replace both of them... As for the fuse, I am no electrician, and noone gave a proper answer yet. This is only a rookie's point of view JF & I gave you

Anyway, it's your call. I am no mechanic and I am happy enough with the original lights, so that's only an advice from what can be found on the forum and elsewhere...

You can also check with Access-Moto who have a BA20D 40/45W in their catalog here. Give them a call in order to make sure they would fit your 'Dero. Their phone number is (0033) 04 67 100 200 or email

I guess you're big enough a boy to check for yourself. Don't take all we've said for granted but ask for a second view

By the way, have you tried asking on the international forums I've posted for you? They might be helpful too and even have other possibilities to help you with your issue